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Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service La Crosse WI
651 PM CDT Fri Aug 11 2023
.DISCUSSION...(This evening through Friday)
Issued at 220 PM CDT Fri Aug 11 2023
Key Messages:
- A broken line of strong to severe storms moves through the
region from west to east this evening. The greatest risk from
these storms will be large hail of 1 to 2 inches in diameter and
damaging winds of 60 to 70 mph.
- Pleasant weather for the weekend into early next week with
periodic chances for storms Sunday into next week.
This Afternoon - Tonight:
A seasonably strong upper tropospheric shortwave trough with
multiple embedded vort lobes is digging across North Dakota and
northwest Minnesota early this afternoon with a 80-90-kt jet streak
working around the southern flank of the trough. At the surface,
broad west to southwest anticyclonic flow is in place ahead of
this feature with surface temperatures rising into the low to
mid-80s and dewpoints remains in the low to mid-60s. ACARS
sounding data from MSP shows only modest lapse rates aloft
limiting SB/MLCAPE values to around 1000 to 500 J/kg,
respectively. These values should slowly rise with daytime solar
insolation with 1500 J/kg of MLCAPE progged by late this
afternoon.
Back to the northwest, a surface cold front/residual outflow
boundary is marching eastward through western Minnesota with the
boundary stretching from Montevideo to Wadena, MN as of 2 pm.
Slowly strengthening convection over north-central Minnesota is
tied into this boundary with continued development expected along
the outflow over the next few hours. Convective initiation is
forecast along and west of the Interstate 35 corridor around 5 pm
with hodographs supporting storm motions of 35-40 kts to the
east/southeast. These storms will quickly work off the initiating
boundary and remain discrete for several hours, though linear
hodographs will support splitting storms and eventual upscale
growth to multi-cell clusters and possibly a few line segments.
Effective shear profiles of 30-50+ kts will support rotating
updrafts with the nearly straight hodographs also supporting large
hail production with any strong updraft. Damaging winds will also be
a risk given the steep low-level lapse rates and fast storm motions.
The storms should only linger over a given location for an hour or
two as they march to the ESE, with the severe weather threat winding
down by 10-11pm. Widespread fog is likely under any corridors of
rainfall tonight with visibilities falling below a half mile at
times.
Saturday - Friday:
Pleasant conditions look to start off the weekend as the shortwave
trough continues to move off to the east. High temperatures hang
around in the upper 70s to mid 80s for most, with deeper mixing also
allowing for a few increased wind gusts through the afternoon. Have
noted that a few hi-res models suggest low chances for a few spotty
showers passing through far northern Wisconsin. However, there
remains low confidence in how far south any shower may reach into
north-central Wisconsin counties.
These quiet conditions will be short-lived as another shortwave
trough drops southeastward across the Northern Plains and over the
area Sunday into Monday. At the surface an associated low is
expected to move eastward with its attendant cold front swinging
through the region. This will bring our next focus for shower and
storm chances early Sunday afternoon into early Monday morning.
PWATS look to increase into the 1.5 to 1.7 inch range late Sunday,
with ensemble solutions showing probabilities nearing 50-70+% (20-
50%) for QPF greater than or equal to 0.5" (>= 1") across southeast
MN and west-central/central Wisconsin by early Monday morning.
Ensemble guidance suggests limited instability across the local
forecast area ahead of the system, which could work to limit severe
weather potential. Both the GEFS and ECMWF ensemble solutions would
keep highest CAPE values southwest and south of the forecast area,
with GEFS only showing up to 20% probabilities of CAPE greater than
or equal to 500 J/kg just reaching into portions of northeast Iowa.
The ECMWF ens members push highest CAPE values even further
southwest/south, keeping probabilities out of the local area
completely. Although conditions look to favor the higher risk for
severe weather southwest and south of the forecast area, it will be
something to monitor as details regarding the location of the warm
front/etc continue to be resolved.
Lingering shower chances continue into the day on Monday, with
cooler conditions as highs struggle to reach into the 70s. Behind
the departing upper level trough ridging builds back in for the day
Tuesday. This looks to bring a break in shower and storm chances as
well as increasing temperatures through early mid-week. Some
indication for another system to move through the region late
Wednesday into Thursday. However, there remain quite a few
differences among models on strength, timing, and location. There is
lower forecast confidence this far out, so not making any changes to
the blended model guidance at this time.
&&
.AVIATION...(For the 00Z TAFS through 00Z Saturday evening)
Issued at 650 PM CDT Fri Aug 11 2023
Immediate concern continues to be strong to severe storms moving
from northwest to southeast from 12.00Z in southeast Minnesota to
12.06Z in central Wisconsin. Have continued +TSRA at KRST at
12.00Z issuance with 12.02Z start at KLSE. As for non-TAF sites,
line of storms expected to impact all lower class airspace.
through the late evening into the early morning hours in the
aforementioned direction and timing.
Concern then becomes limited visibilities with scattered to areas
of fog for much of the area. Similar to previous 11.18Z TAF,
continued IFR visbys at both TAF sites through 12.13/14Z.
Elsewhere, outside of river valleys, scattered fog expected to
affect Cranberry bogs in central Wisconsin (KBCK-KMDZ). Wisconsin
River Valley expected to be widespread fog inducing LIFR visbys.
&&
.ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
WI...NONE.
MN...NONE.
IA...NONE.
&&
$$
DISCUSSION...Skow/EMS
AVIATION...JAR
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
National Weather Service Kansas City/Pleasant Hill MO
701 PM CDT Fri Aug 11 2023
...Updated 00Z Aviation...
.Discussion...
Issued at 253 PM CDT FRI AUG 11 2023
Key Messages:
- Strong to Severe Storms Late This Afternoon
- Scattered Thunderstorms Early Saturday Morning Central Missouri
- Strong to Severe Storms Possible Sunday into Monday
Discussion:
Previous Update From 110 PM, With Minor Correction:
PV anomaly with prominent trough continues to traverse the Canadian
Prairie Provinces and has prompted multiple short-wave perturbations
across the Central CONUS. A 594dam high at H5 has shifted slightly
eastward across the southern Plains into the Gulf region and has
provided subtle H5 height rises across the region early this
morning. There are two vort maxes associated with separate H5 short-
waves that are driving the active weather from the lower Missouri
River Valley into the Upper Mississippi River Valley. The first is
moving through Central Wisconsin late this morning, and this is
associated with a surface cyclone centered over Minnesota, with cold
front extending southwestward through the Central Plains of Nebraska
and into the High Plains of Kansas. There is another surface cyclone
that spans much of the Texas Panhandle that has been deepening in
response to a mid-level vort max on the backside of the H5 high.
Surface troughing has expanded northeastward toward the Ozarks
Region and eastern Kansas as that cyclone has continued to deepen.
This has been pushing a warm front northeastward this morning,
increasing the strength of the WAA region into the middle
Mississippi River Valley.
Even though the low-level jet kicked in, convection this morning
north of Hwy. 36 was not overly strong, and actually wound up
clearing up quickly as the H5 height rises shifted further north. As
a result, all of eastern Kansas and most of Missouri have see
boundary layer destabilization throughout much of the morning.
Without the cloud cover to the north, differential heating has not
been as strong as could have potentially been, therefore convergence
along the warm front likely will not be nearly as strong as was
indicated yesterday. However, with the continued surface pressure
falls into the afternoon, along with the short-wave trough moving
out of Central Nebraska/Kansas across the area, there will still be
plenty of forcing around later this afternoon, and not expected to
greatly hinder the convection forecast. With the strong insolation,
visible satellite has shown the development of a cumulus field over
northwestern Missouri tied closer to the mid-level vort max. During
the early afternoon, initial cumulus clouds will be battling a
stronger cap. The 12z Topeka RAOB showed a strong inversion layer
from 975mb-875mb. ACARS soundings out of MCI late in the morning
showed this inversion is still present, but boundary layer mixing
has been working to erode to this rapidly. With the approaching vort
max and short-wave trough, deep layer wind has been steadily
increasing. By the afternoon, expecting 0-6km bulk shear values
around 45-50 kts. The HRRR/RAP have simulated extremely mixed
boundary layers reach dry adiabatic lapse rates, and a few points
with shallow super-adiabatic rates. Thinking that the RAP/HRRR are
over exaggerating the mixing, but, still expecting static stability
to drastically weaken in the boundary layer, with mid-level lapse
rates between 7.8 to 8.3 C/km. The combination of deep layer shear
with destabilization through the afternoon will be supportive of
strong updrafts. With the 12z cycle of the CAMs, the HRRR has
delayed convection initiation by about 2 hours, waiting closer to
00z for storms to develop along the MO-KS border. However, HiRes-FV3
and NSSL-WRF still kept initiation closer to 22z and then moved
storms east-southeast. As of 18z, we are already seeing robust
initiation in Kansas and southeast Nebraska. Models have not added
any increased confidence to timing and convective trends. The
overall environment will foster updraft development with peak
diurnal heating. Hazards with convection this afternoon and evening
will be tied to storm mode. With in the first 2-3 hours of CI, a
discrete supercell storm mode will be supported, especially along
the warm front. The hodographs will continue to lengthen as the mid-
level vort max propagates eastward. Between 19z-00z, the hodograph
for the most part will be straight. For storms moving with the mean
wind, most of the vorticity will be crosswise, which will still
support supercell structure and mid-level rotation. Closer to the
surface though, flow has remained weak despite the surface pressure
troughing over the past 12 hours. During the late afternoon and
around time of CI, the low-level hodograph is not progged to
demonstrate much curvature. Therefore, this increases the difficulty
for low-level mesocyclone organization. The combination of weaker
low-level shear, while 2-6km shear is stronger combined with robust
thermodynamics, supercells will be capable of producing large hail.
With higher LCLs, theta-e deficits from the surface to the top of
the convective boundary layer will be large along with DCAPE between
1000-1500 J/kg. Therefore, strong downdrafts with robust cold pools
will be capable of also producing damaging winds, and may promote
RFD surges if supercell storm mode is realized. The tornado threat
remains very limited by two main factors. The first, is that surface
and mixed-layer based parcels have LCLs between 1100-1200m.
Secondly, during the period of discrete convection, the lack of
curvature in the lowest 0-500m and 0-1km will result in mostly low-
level crosswise vorticity also hindering tornadogenesis. If a
supercell remains close to the warm front, it may be possible for
surface winds to back in the area of surface pressure falls which
could increase low-level SRH, and if we get enough stretching could
try to produce a tornado. But overall, there are multiple factors
going against the tornado potential. The last several runs of the
HRRR, as well as other members of the HREF have depicted a few
updraft helicity (UH) tracks, and these have been focused mainly
along the warm front. One thing that seems to have changed from last
night is the warm front surging northward, likely because there is
not much clouds in the north. The HRRR seems to be focusing
additional convection along the warm front, and moving more along
the Hwy. 36. Along this boundary, this is where portions of the 3-
6km hodograph are developing backing profile between 22z-00z in
RAP/HRRR soundings, which if we see a left-mover could promote large
hail development in those storms. (Previous discussion said
veering in 3-6 km, it is actually backing. The low-levels may
veer, resulting in a veer-back hodograph). Recent runs of the HRRR
do not develop any convection in the ambient warm- sector.
However, if mixing continues to erode the cap, we could see more
development in the warm sector. However, development remains
uncertain there, and the early initiation in southeast Nebraska
has complicated matters more on how the warm front will behave,
and might it stop surging northward. Eventually, by this evening,
a low-level jet kicks in. This will start to increase curvature in
the lowest portion of the hodograph, and in theory would increase
streamwise vorticity. However, with this low-level jet would
expect storms to congeal and no longer be a discrete mode.
Therefore, the threat transitions more to winds with a low- static
stability in the boundary layer and DCAPE values that remain
above 1000 J/kg. Strong cold pools can still support damaging
winds. Areas along the warm front will support the best
development, but we do not want to rule out additional development
in the warm sector, especially if we see isentropic ascent with
WAA in the south or stronger convergence along the low- level jet.
New Section Generated at 258PM:
Saturday Early Morning:
CAMs have been simulating additional convection along Interstate 70
and southward, east of Hwy. 65 for the early morning hours of
Saturday. This appears to be initiating on the nose of the
developing low-level jet over the warm sector. Given that convection
has not been handled well Friday afternoon and evening, it is hard
to be able to rely on these CAMs, given that earlier convection
could change the position of the warm front, or perhaps modify the
environment through an outflow boundary. There may still be some
shear and instability present early Saturday morning which could
allow for a a few organized updrafts. Would imagine most of it would
be elevated, thus only presenting a hail threat if anything at all.
For the rest of Saturday, the 594dam H5 high over the Gulf Coast
attempts to amplify which results in H5 height rises across the
area, and should help to clear conditions out. The surface low over
Texas though remains in place, and keeps weak WAA into the regime.
With clear skies, expect temperatures Saturday into the lower 90s
for southern reaches of the forecast area, with upper 80s toward the
Iowa border.
Sunday and Beyond:
The PV anomaly will send a strong trough and vort max southward late
Saturday and into Sunday toward the region. With a higher theta-e
airmass in place, on top of higher shear associated with the
vorticity max, another round of strong to severe storms is forecast
on Sunday. Probabilities for SBCAPE of at least 1000 J/kg or greater
is over 70 percent for much of the area. The SWODY3 has most of the
CWA in a slight risk. There is still discrepancy amongst solutions
about how the H5 low becomes closed off, as well as the amplifying
ridge to the west. Ultimately, the track may change if the vorticity
wraps around the low, or if the surface high pressure west of the
region is not nearly as strong. This could have the potential to re-
focus the forcing elsewhere. GEFS probabilities for at least 0.50
inches of rain is around 40 percent for most the area, indicating
that even if stronger thunderstorm forcing misses the area, there
should still be enough for some accumulating precipitation. Beyond
on Sunday, there appears to an amplifying ridge over the southwest
CONUS, with a deep trough over the the eastern third of the CONUS,
this will leave our region in a predominantly northwest flow regime
at least of the mid-levels. This should provide some relief from the
hot and humid conditions for a few days, before the ridge axis
slides further east and returns a WAA regime through the middle and
end of next week.
&&
.Aviation...(For the 00Z TAFS through 00Z Saturday Evening)
Issued at 700 PM CDT FRI AUG 11 2023
Chances for showers and thunderstorms continue tonight around the
KC and STJ terminals. Storms may form over the next couple of
hours then move off towards the east fairly quickly. Temperatures
cool toward the dew point which may lead to some FG/BR towards
sunrise. Additional storms are possible towards daybreak. These
storms are also expected to move off to the east fairly quickly;
however, confidence is fairly low in morning rain at this time.
Otherwise, VFR conditions are anticipated through the day
tomorrow.
&&
.EAX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
KS...Heat Advisory until 8 PM CDT this evening for KSZ057-060-103>105.
MO...Heat Advisory until 8 PM CDT this evening for MOZ037-043>045-053-
054.
&&
$$
Discussion...Krull
Aviation...Pesel